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Make Battles Equipment-Based Rather than Rank-Based

Ace_of_Sp4des 3 years ago • updated by SHOAIB (Moderator (EN)) 2 years ago 30

To join a battle, you should have a minimum upgrade level requirement. In Tanki Online, you have to be a certain rank. This can make some unbalanced games. If everyone must have let's say M2 (/Upgrade level 50) or higher, the game becomes a little more balanced.

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In TX its already like that, if you look at a battle before joining it says: 1-10 11-20 21-30

If you are over those requirments then your equipment is nerfed to that battle

I just realized how stupid I was. I am going to a corner and think about what I have just done.

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Battles are mastery based. Which can unbalance battles at time even more than ranks. I like TO version more, in TO only certain levels of upgrades are allowed unless you rank up and buy upgraded equipments. But in TX even Recruit 1 can make their equipments MUed till 100th level by buying crystals and they will still be playing with other Recruits since they have no mastery. This is a serious concern imo.

Yes in theory Recruit 1 could MU to level 100, but if they joined lets say a 0-10 battle their equipment would be brought down to level 10. They could join higher level battles, but they would have to play against players with higher rank. A Recruit with level 100 equipment would never play against other recruits with that high level equipment as it would be brought down to the battles max upgrades level.

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That 0-10 is mastery level, not upgrade level. Can you quote a creditable source of info backing up your auto downgrading of upgrades idea, Because i believe otherwise.

what did i say to deserve that downvote?

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It was not me, but perhaps you need to stop arguing sometimes and acting like you know everything and agree with others.

perhaps you need stop hating on every single of my comments, because i didn't say it was you.

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Calm down guys... Remember that we are here to help other players not to argue among ourselves about down-votes and who is right.

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Then why are you downvoting me? I am just saying sometimes you say that you are always right and you might need to change that. I am here to help and with you causing problems, you are not cooperating. I agree with you Unexpectable we are here to work together.

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Let's just focus on the topic. This place is not a place for hatred and anger, but a place to enlighten others and help them. Let's all join hands, forgive each other, and move on. If we only think about the hatred in the world, we won't be able to see the beauty in each and everyone one of us.

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I didn't downvote. I never said i m always right & neither did i cause any problems, please stop these false accusation & i honestly don't know why you think of me that way. All i did was give my opinion...

I m not co-operating, WOW! Take a look at your topics and just so you i didn't downvote any of them, cause I don't act out of anger.


If you wanna "work together" you should understand others have the right to state their opinions too.

I m ready to put this all behind if you're willing...

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You don't understand me, and it is sad for us to see you say you are not cooperating. And also i am not falsely accusing you, I am trying to help when i make my topics so you downvoting them is not helpful. I am ready to move on from this as long as you do not argue, be honest with some of the problems you started(I started some too)and don't copy my comments with work together when i stated it first.

Blah blah blah.... Somebody pls help this guy, its clear he didn't understand a word i said.

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Now you are saying there is something wrong with me, I do understand everything your saying and saying negative and hurtful messages back is not helpful. I gave you my opinion of this. Now stop lying, being a baby and acting so immature. It also looks like you have been downvoting me aswell. Forget about this, lets start from fresh and help each other, be friends and find ways to improve this game. If there is any way i offended you, I apologize for all those previous actions.

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What happened to moving on and forgiving everyone? Now you all are just acting like little kids (maybe you are little kids). Take your argument outside, not here. Settle this dispute like real men/women. Please DO NOT REPLY, even if you have something else to say. End of conversation.

P.S. I have down-voted your last few comments due to immature behavior, arguing, etc.

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You made a lame first post based on piss poor perception, written only to provoke a particular response, having achieved said response you decide to act like the injured party in an effort to buffer your insignificance.

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I am going to do what Ace_of_Sp4des said and not act like a baby and settle this the correct way. This is the most likely the last comment I will say to you, I am ready to move on. Are you? Why are you acting so angry? Also everything you said previously reflects what you say and do.

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You clearly don't understand a word he said Damn Slow, mocking others and being mean is rude. You should apologize cause he apologized to you, we should forget about this and move on. We are here for something else.

I think that we should stop replying about this subject. We already said that they need to move on several times. It is better to forget everything than forcing them to apologize.

When you join a battle and you upgrades level is higher then the battle mastery level it shows the message: "The level of your equipment will temporarily be adjusted for this battle." Mastery level does not change equipment stats, so it must be changing upgrades level as well.


For example: I have a hornet that is 22 mastery but only 15 on upgrades. If I try to join a 0-10 battle it will give me the message. On the other hand If I try to join a 11-20 I will not get the message even though my mastery is over.


There was a vlog or Q&A that explained why they did this a long time ago, so you should go find that if you want more info. In short they wanted higher rank players to be able to play with their lower rank friends, and this system makes that possible, by lowering equipment stats down to the battle level.


Also I didn't give you the downvote so I can't help you there. :D

Ok thanks, i didn't know about this as all my equipments are upgraded only till level 6-7, because I spend way too much crystals on drugs :P

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The whole idea of this topic is to balance the equipment. In some battles, I use railgun and hornet. Railgun usually two-shots other hornets/wasps without drugs. Sometimes I face against a player with rail and hornet, but that player takes 3 shots to kill me. This makes it a little unbalanced in my opinion.

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Well it just mean they have better equipment than you or you have better equipment than them, we can't make the battles like that so everyone's tank is the same or equally upgraded. Some people are just generally better than others and that is why they have more crystals which leads to more upgrades which leads to them having a better tank overall. Also what would crystal buyers do to have a stronger tank if they cannot upgrade that much.

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Sorry for de-railing your thread.

It's the mastery that is balanced not the upgrade level.

I actually tried this out a few days ago with my U47/M47 Wasp and ~U40/~M40 Twins (U47 = upgrade level 47, same with mastery/M47). At first I went into a battle with "Mastery: 0-9" and I was driving and shooting as usual. Then I went into a "Mastery: 30-100" battle and suddenly my Wasp was a bit faster & turned quicker and my Twins was shooting faster. Again, my Twins was around U40 and M40 and my Wasp was U47 and M47. I also got some little video proof here where I compare the equipment performance side-by-side in both 0-9 and 30-100 battles.


I think it works like this: if atleast one of the two stats (mastery & upgrade level) is under the minimum "Mastery" area of the battle, you can't join. As example a battle with "Mastery 10-19": if I got M7 and U12 I can't join (according to dev diary). If I got M12 and U7 I also can't join. If both M and U are between 10 and 19 I can join without problems and changes. If I got M22 and U18 I still can join the "Mastery 10-19" battle without change. If I got M18 and U22 my upgrade level will be temporarily adjusted to (probably) U19. If both M and U are over 19 the upgrade level will be adjusted temporarily. A change to mastery doesn't changes gameplay so there are most likely no changes to mastery but only to upgrade level.

I'm not sure why the red text in battles with lower upgrade level says that the "mastery level of your equipment will be temporarily adjusted to the mastery range of the battle" but it most likely means "upgrade level of your equipment will be temporarily adjusted to the mastery range of the battle" because mastery doesn't changes the gameplay/stats of equipment but upgrade level does, and as you can see in my little proof video the upgrade level changes.


And yes, a recruit can buy a ton of crystals and upgrade his equipment to like U60 while his mastery is like M4 or M6 but then he can't play in something like "Mastery: 20-29" battles because his mastery is under 20, even tho his upgrade level is way above 29. Only if he reaches M20 with his U60 equipment he can play in "Mastery: 20-29" battles but his U60 will be adjusted temporarily to (probably) U29 anyways.

Seems like upgrading without a somewhat equal mastery makes no sense and only like upgrading a.e. a M10 turret to U19 makes sense.

Yep this is how I think it works too. I also think they should change the message to say "upgrade level" instead of "mastery level" to reduce confusion.

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